Got into a small debate on YouTube, which ended up taking an unexpected constructive turn. First, some responses from a more polite fellow:
And now, for the more interesting response. First it was typical trolling, but then the troll decided to try being intelligent, which got more than either of us bargained for.
Tadpolak “At the time, Leuchter was THE US expert on gas chamber construction & had designed & constructed most, if not all, of the US gas chambers.” – ‘sfunny. Wikipedia says he was a fraud and a conman . . . . . . =======================================================================
“I’m not interested in the ravings of small fry!”
Ah crap, that’s the one retort I forgot to include in the possibilities of your responses. Moving the goal posts. Then again, since you admitted to never taking me seriously, I doubt they were ever firmly planted in the first place. But that’s ok, I’m loose enough to adjust my kicks/runs/throws.“Not forgetting Himmler, of course, who committed suicide. Now – why was that?”Oh, I could think of a number of reasons. Such as him acting independent of Hitler’s orders, planning to surrender to the West in order to fight the Soviets, thus causing Hitler to strip him of his ranking and order his arrest, which caused him to flee without anyone to really turn to, only to be arrested by the British who I’m sure had some unpleasantries in store for him as they would other SS officers they would get a hold of post-War for the trials, only for Himmler to take the easy way out to avoid torture and forced confessions. Of course, I’m sure you’d rather believe a specific alternative explanation. Either way, we’d be speculating about as much as Michael Moore did in Fahrenheit 9/11.“You’d have thought Heini would have been calling press conferences every week to announce proudly to the world how many innocent people had been murdered in the previous seven days.”Trying to have your cake and eat it too? “Funny how you people deny the Holocaust. No nazi ever did.” First you’re proclaiming no Nazi ever denied the Holocaust. Then it’s no “ones who actually planned and directed the mass murders” ever denied the Holocaust. And now it’s a sarcastic remark admitting how ludicrous it would be for Nazis to freely admit to the Holocaust (assuming they were even carrying out one). Keep the seriousness out of this conversation; it will make it that much easier for me to throw your words back at you.“And talking of Himmler: the Posen speeches.”Ah! Finally! Something for me to actually chew on! A portion of this speech:“I mean the clearing out of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish race. It’s oneof those things it is easy to talk about – “The Jewish race is being exterminated”says every party member, “that’s quite clear, it’s in our program – eliminationof the Jews, and we’re doing it, exterminating them.” And then they come, 80million worthy Germans, and each one has his decent Jew. Of course the othersare vermin, but this one is an A-1 Jew. Not one of all those who talk this way haswitnessed it, not one of them has been through it. Most of you know what itmeans when 100 corpses are lying side by side, or 500 or 1000.”Yeah, this is the main section referred to in those Posen speeches (of which there is only a written record of that has been subjected to errors. Originally written by Himmler in shorthand, and via phonographic devices which weren’t of the best quality (ie there are gaps in various segments of varying lengths). SS-Untersturmführer Werner Alfred Venn was responsible for the making and keeping of these writings/speeches, but also made “corrections” to the text here and there. So there’s the high probability of error when it comes to how close to the original speeches these actually are. But even if we put that aside, it becomes highly suspect that he said all the stuff recorded in the speech as is. Especially when you said it yourself, “You’d have thought Heini would have been calling press conferences every week to announce proudly to the world how many innocent people had been murdered in the previous seven days.” Yeah, it is on the unbelievable side (thanks for the fodder).And even if we were to put all that aside, even if we are to assume that those corpse numbers were referring to Jews and not German soldiers (though for the record, there were German Jews who voluntarily signed up for and fought in the German army), there’s the numbers issue. We’re to believe the Holocaust murdered millions of Jews, and that Himmler is one of the main guys responsible for the murder of millions, and yet he’s only talking about numbers that only add up to 1,000? Where the hell is that ambitious hundreds of thousands number at?There are many more holes that can be poked at with these Posen speeches, of which can be found in the book Auschwitz: A Judge Looks at the Evidence By Wilhelm Stäglich.This is finally getting constructive. What else have you got? And for the record, don’t even bother trying to delete these posts. I’ve got them archived. Whether you take the response seriously or not is irrelevant. I’m already of the assumption you’re a lost cause. I’m playing for the audience.
This blog post may be a work in progress. Might get updated.
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